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Jul 5 11 12:32 PM

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WHO WERE THE SONS OF GOD, THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, THE NEPHILIM AND ORIGIN OF THE DEMONS?



Part 1. of 2.
 Sons of God and Daughters of Men

"The craving of demons for a body, evident in the Gospels, offers at least some parallel to this hunger for sexual experience." -Derek Kidner

In 1947 an Arab boy tending his sheep accidentally discovered an ancient cave near the Dead Sea. In it were found a priceless collection of ancient scrolls which soon became known as the Dead Sea Scrolls or the Qumran Texts.
Among these writings was one known as the Genesis Apocryphon. At first it was thought to be the long lost Book of Lamech. Although the scroll consisted of a speech by Lamech and a story about some of the patriarchs from Enoch to Abraham; it was not that book.   According to the Bible, Lamech was the son of Methuselah and the father of Noah. He was the ninth of the ten patriarchs of the antedeluvian world.

It is significant, however, that the Genesis Apocryphon mentions the "Nephilim," and makes reference to the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" introduced in Genesis 6. The Apocryphon also elaborates considerably on the succinct statements found in the Bible, and provides valuable insights into the way these ancient stories were interpreted by the early Israelites.

The copy of the Genesis Apocryphon discovered at Qumran dates back to the 2nd century B.C., but it was obviously based on much older sources. When discovered in 1947, it had been much mutilated from the ravages of time and humidity. The sheets had become so badly stuck together that years passed before the text was deciphered and made known. When scholars finally made public its content, the document confirmed that celestial beings from the skies had landed on planet Earth. More than that, it told how these beings had mated with Earth-women and had begat giants.

Is this story myth or history, fable or fact? Specialized research has revealed that many ancient legends have a basis in fact. But to answer the question, let us consult the most authoritative document known to man--the Bible.

In Genesis 6:1-4 the "sons of God" are captivated by the beauty of the "daughters of men." They subsequently "took them as wives" and produced an offspring of giants known as the Nephilim. Genesis goes on to say that these Nephilim were "mighty men" and "men of renown."

"Sons of God"? "Daughters of men"? What sort of beings were these? Were they human or did they belong to an alien species from outer space?

IDENTIFYING THE SONS OF GOD

There is no problem in identifying the "daughters of men" for this is a familiar method of designating women in the Bible. The problem lies with the "sons of God." Three major interpretations have been offered to shed light on this cryptic designation.

First, a group within orthodox Judaism theorized that "sons of God" meant "nobles" or "magnates." Hardly anyone today accepts this view.

Second, some interpret the "sons of God" as fallen angels, who began lusting after the "daughters of men."  Many reputable Bible commentators have rejected this theory on psycho-physiological grounds. How can one believe, they ask, that angels from Heaven could engage in sexual relations with women from Earth? Philastrius labeled such an interpretation a down-right heresy.  As will be discussed later in this article however, that is exactly who they were. 

Third, many famed scholars contend that the "sons of God" are the male descendants of Seth, and that the "daughters of men" are the female descendants of Cain. According to this view, what actually happened in Genesis 6 was an early example of believers marrying unbelievers. The good sons of Seth married the bad daughters of Cain, and the result of these mixed marriages was a mongrel offspring. These later became known for their decadence and corruption; indeed, it reached such a degree that God was forced to intervene and destroy the human race. This comment of Matthew could be taken as representative of those holding this view:

"The sons of Seth (that is the professors of religion) married the daughters of men, that is, those that were profane, and strangers to God and godliness. The posterity of Seth did not keep by themselves, as they ought to have done. They inter- mingled themselves with the excommunicated race of Cain." 

However, in spite of the excellent pedigree of the proponents of this theory, their argument is not convincing. Their interpretation is pure eisegesis--they are guilty of reading into the text what is obviously not there. This theory fails because the sons of God came from heaven and were part of the heavenly host.

FALSE EXEGESIS

Their interpretation fails on other grounds as well. At no time, before the Flood or after, has God destroyed or threatened to destroy the human race for the sin of "mixed marriages." It is impossible to reconcile this extreme punishment with the mere verbal strictures found elsewhere in the Bible for the same practice. If God is going to be consistent, He should have destroyed the human race many times over!

The contrast made in Genesis 6:2 is not between the descendants of Seth and the descendants of Cain, but between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men." If by "sons of God" is meant "sons of Seth," then only the sons of Seth engaged in mixed marriages, and not the daughters. And only the daughters of Cain were involved, and not the sons. And another strange assumption is implied: that only the sons of Seth were godly, and only the daughters of Cain were evil.

The strangeness is compounded when one seeks for evidence that the sons of Seth were godly. We know from Genesis that when the time came for God to destroy the human race, He found only one godly family left among them--that of Noah. Where were all the other supposedly godly sons of Seth? Even Seth's own son could hardly be called righteous. His name was Enos meaning "mortal" or "frail." And he certainly lived up to it! Genesis 4:26 reads, "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord." That statement seems harmless enough, but what does it mean when it says that it was only now that men began to call upon the name of the Lord? Upon whom did Adam call? And Abel? And Seth himself?

Some scholars give us a more literal and exact translation to this verse: "Then men began to call themselves by the name of Jehovah." Other scholars translate the statement in this manner: "Then men began to call upon their gods (idols) by the name of Jehovah." If either of these be the correct translation then the evidence for the so-called godly line of Seth is non- existent. The truth of the matter is that Enos and his line, with few noted exceptions, were as ungodly as the other line. The divine record could not be clearer: "all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Genesis 6:12).

In the Old Testament, the designation "sons of God" (ben Elohim) is never used of humans, but always of supernatural beings that are higher than man but lower than God. To fit such a category only one species is known--angels. And the term "sons of God" applies to both good and bad angels. These are the beings of whom Augustine wrote:

"Like the gods they have corporeal immortality, and passions like human beings." 

The designation "sons of God" is used four other times in the Old Testament, each time referring to angels. One example is Daniel 3:25, where king Nebuchadnezzar looks into the fiery furnace and sees four men, "and the form of the fourth is like the son of God." The translation is different and clearer in our modern versions, "like a son of the gods." Since Jesus had not yet become the "only begotten son" of God, this "son" would have had to be angelic.

Another example is Job 38:7 which says the sons of God shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the Earth. Angels are the only entities that fit this designation since man had not been created at that time!  Which eliminates the theory of the line of Seth being the "sons of God."  

In Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 the "sons of God" came to present themselves before the Lord in Heaven. Among the sons of God is Satan--a further implication that the "sons of God" must have been among the angels who were his followers.  another point to keep in mind, is the fact these "sons of God"/angels were only some of the one third who followed Satan, as found in Rev.12:4, and still remain, to be thrown out of heaven, according to Rev.12:7-9, during the seven years of tribulation, yet to take place. 

The designation "sons of God" is used in the Old Testament only four times, and is Scripturally supported as meaning angels, as recorded in Jude 6.  About the angels who kept not their first estate, in heaven, it is logical to conclude that the term in Genesis 6:2 also refers to angels.

Keep in mind when God sent angels to the earth as messengers, they were the same as human men with every capability of man, as the angels were who went to Sodom, of Gen.19, and of Jesus after His resurrection, with full  capabilities, such as thinking, speaking, eating, functioning in every human capacity, the scars being felt on His body by Thomas with every reason to believe, to have perfectly normal sexual capable as well. 

SONS OF GOD: THREE CATEGORIES

In the New Testament, born-again believers in Christ are called the children of God or the sons of God (Luke 3:38, John 1:12, Romans 8:14, 1 John 3:1). Dr. Bullinger in the Companion Bible states: "It is only by the divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called 'a son of God.'" This explains why every born-again believer is a son of God. It explains also why Adam was a son of God. Adam was specifically created by God, "in the likeness of God made He him" (Genesis 5:1).  All of mankind have been made in God's image, in His likeness, beginning with Adam, according to Gen.1:26. 

[B]Lewis Sperry Chafer expresses this in an interesting way when he states:[/B]

"In the Old Testament terminology angels are called sons of God while men are called servants of God. In the New Testament this is reversed. Angels are the servants and Christians are the sons of God." (3)

It is thus clear that the term "sons of God" in the Bible is limited to three categories of beings: angels, Adam and believers. All three are special and specific creations of God. As for the use of the term in Genesis 6, since it cannot possibly refer to Adam nor believers in Christ, we conclude that it has to refer to the angels whom God had created.

LIGHT FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT

Two New Testament passages shed further light on Genesis 6. They are Jude 6-7 and 2 Peter 2:4. These verses indicate that at some point in time a number of angels fell from their pristine state and proceeded to commit a sexual sin that was both unusual and repugnant. Jude 6-7 states:

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh..."

These angels not only failed to keep their original dominion and authority, but they "left their own habitation." Habitation is a significant word: it means "dwelling place" or "heaven." And the addition of the Greek word "idion" ("their own") means that they left their own private, personal, unique possession.  Heaven is/was the personal residence of the sons of God/angels who chose "the daughters of men," and lost it. 

Not only did these angels leave Heaven, they left it once-for- all. The Greek verb "apoleipo" is in the aorist tense, thus indicating a once-for-all act. By taking the action they did, these angels made a final and irretrievable decision. They crossed the Rubicon. Their action, says Kenneth Wuest, "was apostasy with a vengeance." 

As to the specific sin of these angels, we are given the facts in Jude 7. As in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah it was the sin of "fornication" and it means "going after strange flesh." "Strange" flesh means flesh of a different kind (Greek "heteros"). To commit this particularly repugnant sin, the sons of God/angels decided to abandon their own domain and invade a realm that was divinely forbidden to them. 

These angels transgressed the limits of their own immortal imperishable  heavenly realm to invade one of  created beings of a mortal, perishable earthly realm. 

Alford confirms:

"It was a departure from the appointed course of nature and seeking after that which is unnatural, to other flesh than that appointed by God for the fulfillment of natural desire."

The mingling of these two orders of being, was contrary to what God had intended, and summarily led to God's greatest act of judgment ever enacted upon the human race.

TEMPTING THE ANGELS

Another New Testament verse may have bearing on Genesis 6. In I Corinthians 11:10, Paul instructs that a woman should cover her head as a sign of subjection to her husband, and also "because of the angels." This observation has intrigued commentators through the years. Why this sudden reference to angels? Could it be a reference to what happened in Genesis 6 where angels succumbed to the inducements and physical charm of the women of Earth? Obviously, Paul believed that an uncovered woman was a temptation even to angels. William Barclay mentions an old rabbinic tradition which alleges that it was the beauty of the women's long hair that attracted and tempted the angels in Genesis.

STRANGE PARENTAGE

The off-spring of this union between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" were so extraordinary that it indicates an unusual parentage. In no way could the progenitors of such beings be ordinary humans. Their mothers possibly could be human, or their fathers, but certainly not both. Either the father or the mother had to be superhuman. Only in such a way can one account for the extraordinary character and prowess of the off-spring who were the Nephilim, the giants on the earth. 

God's law of reproduction, according to the biblical account of creation, is "everything after his kind." God's law makes it impossible for giants to be produced by normal parentage. To produce such monstrosities as the Nephilim presupposes super- natural parentage.

GIANTS?

"Nephilim" is a Hebrew word translated in the Authorized King James version as "giants." "There were giants in the earth in those days" (Genesis 6:4).  The Hebrew and the Greek words do not exclude the presence of great physical strength. Indeed, a combined supernatural and natural parentage would imply such a characteristic. Angels, according to Scripture, are known for their power. They are often referred to as "sons of the Mighty" (Psalm 103:20). Therefore, if the ones who sired them were strong and mighty, it could be assumed that their offspring were likewise.

No evidence exists in Scripture that the offspring of mixed human marriages (believers and unbelievers) ever produced giants, excelling in great strength and might. No evidence can be found anywhere in history for that matter. 

When the word "Nephilim" is used in Numbers 13:33, the question of size and strength is explicit. Here we are left in no doubt as to their superhuman prowess. When Joshua's spies reported back from Canaan, they called certain of the inhabitants of Canaan "giants." "And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."

According to Gen.6:4 the Nephilim were on the earth in those days, before the flood of Noah - and after!  How that took place is not defined for us in the Scriptures, since the earlier Nephilim had been destroyed in the Flood.  The only logical explanation for it, is that all of the sons of God who were involved in it had not yet been caught and locked up in the Abyss awaiting judgement as the others had.  Which is also a primary reason for God ordering Joshua to destroy all of the pagan tribes they encountered on their way to Canaan.

Review the following for pictorial evidence

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=photographic+evidence+of+giants+on+the+earth&qpvt=photographic+evidence+of+giants+on+the+earth&FORM=VDRE#x0y7134


See also: http://deeperwalk.lefora.com/2011/02/04/theological-origin-of-what-bigfootsasquatch-may-be/


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Jul 5 11 12:34 PM

Part 2. of 2.

Who the sons of God, the daughters of men, Nephilim and demons were


NEPHILIM -- NO RESURRECTION

The Book of Isaiah says that the Nephilim and their descendants will not participate in a resurrection, as will all normal human beings.  Isaiah 26:14 reads: "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise." The original Hebrew word translated "deceased" here is the word "Rephaim," the name of a giant people, recorded in Jos.12:4 and in 13:12.  It would have saved a lot of misinterpretation if the translators had left the word as it was in the original. The verse actually reads: "Dead, they shall not live; Rephaim, they shall not rise." The Rephaim were one of the clan of the Nephilim, and God's Word makes it clear that they will not participate in any resurrection. But with humans it is different: who will all be resurrected either to life or to damnation (John 5:28-29).  Which leads us to examine the bodily death of the Nephilim, and the "binding to earth" of their spirits, seeking the bodies of others to invade, as the demons found recorded in the Scriptures, which will be covered later. 

We have already seen that the Greek Version of the Old Testament (The Septuagint) translated "Nephilim" as "gegenes;" we shall now inquire how it translates "sons of God." In some of the manuscripts it is left as "sons of God," but in the others-- including the Alexandrian text--it is rendered by the word "angelos." This text was in existence in the time of Christ, but there is no indication that He ever corrected or queried it. Can we not assume from His silence that He agreed with the translation!


DISTORTION OF THE TEXT

Having studied all the arguments in favor of "sons of Seth," one concludes that the only argument that is valid among them is that of rationality. "Sons of Seth" is an interpretation that is more palatable to human reason. Reason can never subscribe to the incredible notion that fallen angels could have sex relations with women of Earth. Angels have no physical bodies!  [They do when God sends them as messengers, such as in Gen.19:1 and in Jos.5:13-15.]  They do not marry!  [They never marry in heaven, but the "sons of God"/angels took the "daughters of men" as wives on earth.]  They belong to an entirely different species of being! The mind revolts against such absurdity. So, what does one do? Settle, of course, for an easy, rational interpretation--sons of Seth and daughters of Cain. But what if the meaning of Scripture is clearly otherwise? There is the rub! Scripture is clearly otherwise! To impose a human interpretation at the expense of the obvious meaning of the divine Word, is a distortion of the biblical text. Furthermore, when one deals with the paranormal, rationality is never an argument.

JEWISH AND PATRISTIC FATHERS

The Jewish Fathers, when interpreting the passage of Scripture from Genesis 6:2, interpreted it as "angels."  As does W.F. Allbright, who tells us that:

"The Israelites who heard this section (Genesis 6.2) recited, unquestionably considered it to be intercourse between angels and women."

Philo of Alexandria, a deeply religious man, wrote a brief but beautiful treatise on this subject, called "Concerning The Giants." Basing his exposition on the Greek version of the Bible, he renders it as "Angels of God." Says Bamberger, "Had he found the phrase 'sons of God' in his text, he most certainly would have been inspired to comment on it." 

Philo certainly took the Genesis passage as historical, explaining that just as the word "soul" applies to both good and evil beings, so does the word "angel." The bad angels, who followed Lucifer, at a later point in time failed to resist the lure of physical desire, and succumbed to it. He goes on to say that the story of the giants is not a myth, but it is there to teach us that some men are earth-born, while others are heaven- born, and the highest are God-born. 

The Early Church Fathers believed the same way. Men like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Athenagoras, Tertullian, Lactantius, Eusebius, Ambrose...all adopted this interpretation. In the words of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, the angels fell "into impure love of virgins, and were subjugated by the flesh...Of those lovers of virgins therefore, were begotten those who are called giants."  And again, "...the angels transgressed, and were captivated by love of women and begat children."

Nowhere before the 5th century A.D. do we find any interpretation for "sons of God" other than that of angels. We cannot deny the Jewish Fathers knowledge of their own terminology! They invariably translated "sons of God" as "angels." The testimony of Josephus, that colorful cosmopolitan and historian, is also of paramount importance. In his monumental volume, "Antiquities of the Jews," he reveals his acquaintance with the tradition of the fallen angels consorting with women of Earth. He not only knew of the tradition but tells us how the children of such union possessed super human strength, and were known for their extreme wickedness. "For the tradition is that these men did what resembled the acts of those men the Grecians called giants." Josephus goes on to add that Noah remonstrated with these offspring of the angels for their villainy. 

Perhaps the most conclusive argument for interpreting the expression as "angels" is the simplest one of all. If the writer of Genesis wanted to refer to the "sons of Seth" he would have just said so. If God had intended that meaning, then the verse would undoubtedly read, "the sons of Seth saw the daughters of Cain that they were fair..." But the Bible meant something far more sinister--the sexual union between angels from Heaven and evil women from Earth.  A plan by Satan to derail God's plan for a Savior to redeem and restore mankind back to Him through them.    Because of the gravity of such a union, and its dire consequences for the human race, God destroyed it before it could destroy itself--except for the Godly family of Noah, whom He spared, to begin human history all over again.

THE ULTIMATE SIN

God made man in His own image, the highest of all His earthly creations. While God said that everything He made was good, He considered man very good, creating man for fellowship with Himself.  But they turned their backs on Him to worship their created things and indulge in sexual deviation, rather than worship the Creator.  Before many generations, the human race was polluted by this abominable union between the "sons of God'/angels and the "daughters of men," that resulted in the Nephilim, the giants on the earth.  Resulting in God's righteous anger, causing Him to regret having made man, and bring the flood of Noah upon the earth 

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man. ..."(Genesis 6:5-6)   It was specifically because of this ultimate sin that God brought about a deluge of such magnitude that man and beast were drowned from the face of the Earth.

WAS NOAH IMMUNE?

Why Noah and his immediate family were the only ones immune from this great judgment is significant. Genesis 6:9 says, "Noah was a just man." He stood out as an example of righteousness and Godliness in a perverted age. Like Enoch before him, Noah also "walked with God." But there was another reason why Noah was spared, one that seems to have escaped most commentators. Genesis 6:9 says that Noah was "perfect in his generation." Does this mean moral and spiritual perfection? Hardly. Genesis 9:20-23 disproves any such perfection. What, then, does the Bible mean by calling him "perfect"? The Hebrew word is "tamiym" and comes from the root word "taman." This means "without blemish" as in Exodus 12:5, 29:1, Leviticus 1:3. Just as the sacrificial lamb had to be without any blemish, so it was with Noah, in the eyes of God.   He alone had preserved their pedigree and kept it pure, in spite of prevailing corruption brought about by the fallen angels.

And again:

Noah's bloodline had remained free of genetic contamination. 

This implies, of course, that all the rest of mankind on Earth had become evil as well as contaminated by the sons of God. It also proves that the assault of Satan on the human race had been far more extensive than realized. It is no wonder that God pronounced such devastating judgement on mankind and the earth. 

As for the fallen angels who participated in the abomination, God put them in custody "in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (Jude 6). This is sometimes interpreted as Tartarus or the "nether realms" (2 Peter 2:4). This would also explain why some fallen angels are in custody and why others, with Satan, are still free to roam the heavens and to tempt mankind into rejecting God and of Jesus as Lord, as well as involving themselves in as much evil and sexual immorality and deviation as they know how.  

Such a drastic punishment, both for men and angels, presupposed a drastic sin, something infinitely more evil and more sinister than mixed marriages. It was Satan's plan, attempting to pervert the human race by genetic control and the production of hybrids, to destroy the people God had made for Himself, and His plan to reconcile them back to Himself, through His Savior Jesus Christ. 

If Satan had succeeded in corrupting the human race, he would have hindered the coming of the perfect Son of God, the promised "seed of the woman," who would defeat Satan and restore man's dominion (Genesis 3:15). If Satan had by any means prevented that birth, he would obviously have averted his own doom. Satan did succeed to a large extent, which was for this reason that God drowned mankind in the Deluge.

ARE ANGELS SEXLESS?

Interpreting the "sons of God" as fallen angels, the question immediately arises--do angels marry? In Matthew 22:30, Jesus said angels neither marry nor are given in marriage. This seems a clear and emphatic negative. However, it does not preclude the possibility of such a thing happening--obviously contrary to the will of God. And it does not preclude fallen angels, who had rebelled against God already, by cohabiting with women of Earth, as the Scriptures state.

Some interpret the words of Jesus as meaning that angels do not marry among themselves. Is it because they are all male? Or is it because celestial beings are deathless and thus need no offspring. Only terrestrial beings need to find immortality in their children.  But if they do not need to marry and procreate, is it still possible that they could engage in sexual acts? If not among themselves then with human spouses? Jude seems quite explicit on the matter: the angels left their own habitation, and gave themselves over to fornication, going after strange flesh. In other words, they were capable of performing human functions--eating, drinking, walking, talking, even sexual activity and fathering children.

The fact that angels do not marry does not in itself prove they are sexless. Throughout the Bible, angels are referred to only as men. Finis Drake writes: "It is logical to say...that the female was created specifically for the human race in order that it could be kept in existence; and that all angels were created males, in as much as their kind is kept in existence without the reproduction process. Angels were created innumerable to start with (Hebrews 12:22) whereas, the human multitudes began with one pair." 

However, the fact remains, when God sent angels to the earth for the various missions it was for, they not only became fully visible, but were also  fully physical, as illustrated in Jesus activities over the 40 days He spent on the earth after His resurrection.  He ate, drank, slept and Thomas felt the wounds on His body that He suffered while on the Roman cross.  Also seen by the angels in Gen.19:1 and in Jos.5:13-15.  There is no reason to think they were not all capable of sexual activity as well.

WHO ARE THE DEMONS ?

One other question has been raised. If the fallen angels who lusted after women of Earth in Genesis 6 have been interred in Tartarus with "everlasting chains," how does one explain the demons who have been operating since then? They seemed to have been quite active during the ministry of Jesus, and are busy again in our day.

The source of the demons are not from the sons of God/fallen angels, because they were all gathered up, most before the flood of Noah and the rest of them were finally caught up with after the flood, chained and locked up in "tartarus," the deep underground Abyss/prison.  But rather, they were/are the Nephilim, the giants born to the sons of God and the daughters of men. 

Though the flood killed the majority of them and their physical bodies died, but their spirit/souls did not, because they were hybrid, a cross between the heavenly sons of God/fallen angels and the human daughters of men.  God relegated them to wander the earth seeking bodies to enter into, regardless of human or animal as recorded in Mt.8:28-34, where Jesus drove the demons out of the two men into a herd of pigs.

After the flood, there is clear evidence, all the sons of God had not yet been caught and more daughters of men gave birth to Nephilim as the Scriptures clearly reveal in:

GIANTS

(1.) Hebrew Nephilim, meaning "violent" or "causing to fall" (Gen. 6:4). These were the violent tyrants of those days, those who fell upon others. The word may also be derived from a root signifying "wonder," and hence "monsters" or "prodigies." In Num. 13:33 this name is given to a Canaanitish tribe, a race of large stature, "the sons of Anak." The Revised Version, in these passages, simply transliterates the original, and reads "Nephilim."

(2.) Hebrew rephaim, a race of giants (Deut. 3:11) who lived on the east of Jordan, from whom Og was descended. They were probably the original inhabitants of the land before the immigration of the Canaanites. They were conquered by Chedorlaomer (Gen. 14:5), and their territories were promised as a possession to Abraham (15:20). The Anakim, Zuzim, and Emim were branches of this stock.

In Job 26:5 (R.V., "they that are deceased;" marg., "the shades," the "Rephaim") and Isa. 14:9 this Hebrew word is rendered (A.V.) "dead." It means here "the shades," the departed spirits in Sheol. In Sam. 21:16, 18, 20, 33, "the giant" is (A.V.) the rendering of the singular form ha raphah, which may possibly be the name of the father of the four giants referred to here, or of the founder of the Rephaim. The Vulgate here reads "Arapha," whence Milton (in Samson Agonistes) has borrowed the name "Harapha." (See also 1 Chron. 20:5, 6, 8; Deut. 2:11, 20; 3:13; Josh. 15:8, etc., where the word is similarly rendered "giant.") It is rendered "dead" in (A.V.) Ps. 88:10; Prov. 2:18; 9:18; 21:16: in all these places the Revised Version marg. has "the shades." (See also Isa. 26:14.)

(3.) Hebrew 'Anakim (Deut. 2:10, 11, 21; Josh. 11:21, 22; 14:12, 15; called "sons of Anak," Num. 13:33; "children of Anak," 13:22; Josh. 15:14), a nomad race of giants descended from Arba (Josh. 14:15), the father of Anak, that dwelt in the south of Palestine near Hebron (Gen. 23:2; Josh. 15:13). They were a Cushite tribe of the same race as the Philistines and the Egyptian shepherd kings. David on several occasions encountered them (2 Sam. 21:15-22). From this race sprung Goliath (1 Sam. 17:4).

(4.) Hebrew 'emin, a warlike tribe of the ancient Canaanites. They were "great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims" (Gen. 14:5; Deut. 2:10, 11).

(5.) Hebrew Zamzummim (q.v.), Deut. 2:20 so called by the Amorites.

(6.) Heb. gibbor (Job 16:14), a mighty one, i.e., a champion or hero. In its plural form (gibborim) it is rendered "mighty men" (2 Sam. 23:8-39; 1 Kings 1:8; 1 Chr. 11:9-47; 29:24.) The band of six hundred whom David gathered around him when he was a fugitive were so designated. They were divided into three divisions of two hundred each, and thirty divisions of twenty each. The captains of the thirty divisions were called "the thirty," the captains of the two hundred "the three," and the captain over the whole was called "chief among the captains" (2 Sam. 23:8). The sons born of the marriages mentioned in Gen. 6:4 are also called by this Hebrew name.
 

It seems clear to me that the "sons of God" are none other than fallen angels, and, because of their further sin of lusting after the "daughters of men," many were imprisoned by God. Both the near annihilation of the human race and the incarceration of the fallen angels in Tartarus indicate the magnitude of the sin they committed. By such drastic judgment, God saved the human race from a calamity worse than the physical death originally imposed upon them.
 
 
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http://www.bibleprobe.com/nephilim.htm

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/giants.htm

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What and Who are Demons and What is Their Origin ?
 
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This subject is full of speculation and guesswork, even from astute Bible scholars and theologians. Yet, the facts are provided us directly from the Scriptures themselves if we diligently look for them.
 
First of all, demons are not fallen angels, which the general consensus of many expositors and theologians, believe the sons of God were, in Gen.6:2 and 4. For the purpose of this thread, we will approach this review with the sons of god as the fallen angels.
 
In the second place, where did the sons of God, come from ? They came from heaven, as is found in Job 1:6, 2:1 and 38:7. Which clearly reveals the theory of some, that the sons of God were from Adam and Eve's son, Seth's family, who of course never came from heaven. But the Scriptures document, the sons of God came from heaven. If they had been called angels in the first place we could better understand the text..   
 
With that having been determined, the sons of God, are spirit beings, including God Himself, who have souls,  according to Isa.1:14, as all of us humans do, as well. Therefore, the "citizenship," or "first estate" of the sons of God/fallen angels, was in heaven. While the natural "citizenship" or "first estate" of human daughters of men, is on the earth.
Therefore, from the above, we have established from the Bible, the sons of God were spirit beings and a part of the heavenly host. From there, we go to the following revelation:
 
"When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose." Gen.6:1-2. Keep in mind, Jesus inferred angels do not marry nor are given in marriag - in heaven - according to Mt.22:30.

In other words, these sons of God left their first estate and citizenship in heaven, and went to the earth, with the power to become visible and appear as any physical normal man and married a daughter of human men.  The offspring they had with human women, resulting in their children being the Nephilim/giants, born to them as recorded in Gen.6:4.
 
Take note of this important fact: The Nephilim were hybrid regarding the origin of their first estate or "citizenship," because they did not come as a citizen from heaven, nor as a natural human being, which is what this thread is all about.

Up to this point, we have found that the sons of God/fallen angels, who came down to the earth from heaven, and had children by human women, who then lost their first estate in heaven.  God then imprisoned them until the day of judgement, according to 1 Pet.2:4 and Jude 6.
 
The fallen angels here, were only part of those belonging to Satan, who is still very active with the rest of his angels.  Reference to Satan and his angels being cast from heaven, is prophecy, as recorded in Rev.12:9, yet to come, during the 70th and final week [7 years] of God's decree upon the destiny of Israel. Also recorded as Jesus Olivet Discourse of the 7 year tribulation, in Mt.24; Mk.13 and in Lk.21.  Prophecy yet to be fulfilled.
 
That leaves us with the hybrid Nephilim, described in the Scriptures as giants both before the flood of Noah in Gen.6:4 - and after the flood in Num.13:33; Dt.1:28; 3:11; 9:2; Josh.11:22; 12:2, 4; 1 Sam17:4-7 and 1 Chr.20:6-8.
 
How could the Nephilim, the giants who lived before the flood of Noah be present on the earth after the flood, as recorded in Gen.6:4, when the flood killed everyone on the earth except Noah and his seven family members?  The only logical answers to that is that all the sons of God/fallen angels were not all caught and thrown into the Abyss/prison until after the flood of Noah.  That more of Satan's sons of God/angels sought after the daughters of men/human women, after the flood of Noah.
 
Remember, the hybrid Nephilim had no previous estate, "citizenship," with either the heavenly host or to humanity. Therefore, their spirit/souls were relegated to remain earthbound until the day of judgement, seeking to get into whatever body they could find to do so, regardless of whether human or animal, as recorded in Lk.8:26-33. That is what/who the demons were/are.
 
The Book of Isaiah says that the Nephilim and their descendants will not participate in a resurrection, as will all normal human beings. Isaiah 26:14 reads: "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise." The original Hebrew word translated "deceased" here is the word "Rephaim," the name of a giant people, recorded in Jos.12:4 and in 13:12. It would have saved a lot of misinterpretation if the translators had left the word as it was in the original. The verse actually reads: "Dead, they shall not live; Rephaim, they shall not rise." The Rephaim were one of the clan of the Nephilim, and God's Word makes it clear that they will not participate in any resurrection. But with humans it is different: who will all be resurrected either to life or to damnation (John 5:28-29). Which leads us to examine the bodily death of the Nephilim, and the "binding to earth" of their spirits, seeking the bodies of others to invade, as the demons found recorded in the Scriptures, which will be covered later.

From Book 1 of Enoch, is the following except from Chapter 15, he writes of the Nephilim/giants, beginning with point 6.: "But you from the beginning were made spiritual, possessing a life which is eternal, and not subject to death for ever!"

7. "Therefore I made no wives for you, because you being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven."

8. "Now the giants who have been born of spirit and flesh, shall be called upon the earth evil spirit/demons, and on the earth shall be their habitation. Evil spirits shall proceed from their flesh, because they were created from above; from the holy watchers/sons of God was their beginning and primary foundation. Evil spirits/demons shall they be upon the earth, and the spirits/demons of the wicked shall they be called. The habitation of the spirits of heaven shall be in heaven; but upon earth shall be the habitation of terrestrial spirits, who are born on earth."

9. "The spirits of the Nephilim/giants shall be like clouds, which shall oppress, corrupt, fall, contend, and bruise upon the earth."

10. "They shall cause lamentation. No food shall they eat; and they shall be thirsty; they shall be concealed, and shall not rise up against the sons of men, and against women; for they came forth during the days of slaughter and destruction."
 
Accordingly, the bodies of the Nephilim died, but their spirit/souls remain on earth as the evil spirit/demons present during the days of Jesus, as seen in 8:28-32. Without bodies, they try to find bodies to get into.
 
 How big does the Bible describe these Nephilim/giants to be after their spirit/souls found bodies to live in after the flood of Noah ?
 
"Only Og king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaites. His bed was made of iron and was more than thirteen feet long and six feet wide. It is still in Rabbah of the Ammonites." Dt.3:11
 
"A champion named Goliath, who was from Gath, came out of the Philistine camp, he was over nine feet tall. He had a bronze helmet on his head and wore a coat of scale armor of bronze weighing 5,000 shekels [over 156 pounds]; on his legs he wore bronze greaves, and a bronze javelin was slung on his back. His spear shaft was like a weaver's rod, and its iron point weighed six hundred shekels [18.75 pounds]. His shield bearer went ahead of him." 1 Sam.17:4-7

See also: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/giants.htm

And: http://www.bibleprobe.com/nephilim.htm


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THE DAYS OF NOAH

[This account of the Biblical recording of it, is all legendary but interesting]

This story is really a collaboration of information taken from various biblical books and Jewish Literature, as well as a few others that appear to tell the same story, such as theworks of historian Flavius Josephus, Jewish theologian Louis Ginsberg, the Bible, the DeadSea Scrolls, many apocryphal books, Enoch 1,2,3, Jasher, Jubilees, Baruch, Solomon, the book of giants, the midrash, the pyramid texts, and even the Egyptian book of the dead. Every attempt has been made to make this an accurate and complete account of the Days of Noah.

Genesis 6:2:  "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." 

PART ONE - THE FALL OF THE ANGELS
 
The depravity of mankind, which began to show itself in the time of Enosh, had increased monstrously in the time of his grandson Jared, because of the fallen angels. When the angels saw the beautiful, attractive daughters of men, they lusted after them, and the angel Jeqon said to the others: “We will choose wives for ourselves from among the daughters of men,and father children with them.” Their chief Shemhazai replied, “I fear you will not follow through with this plan of yours, and I alone will have to suffer the consequences of a greatsin.” Then they answered him, and said: “We will all swear an oath, and we will bind ourselves, separately and together, not to abandon the plan, but to carry it through to the end.”

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
 
Two hundred angels descended to the summit of Mount Hermon, which owes its name tothis very occurrence, because they bound themselves there to fulfill their purpose, on thepenalty of eternal separation from heaven, a mutual curse. Once on earth, the angels fellinto the trap of their new flesh, listening to their earthly desires, they copulated. The angelswere strangers, wearing the skins of men, the eyes of men and their hands. They appearedto the women as handsome men with blue eyes and hair the color of gold. They assumedthe positions of Judges and rulers in all the lands, and Mankind quickly learned their ancientnames. Under the leadership of twenty captains they defiled themselves with the daughtersof men, to whom they taught charms, conjuring formulas, how to cut roots, and the efficacyof plants. The issue from these mixed marriages was a race of giants, thirty ells tall (about 45feet), who consumed the possessions of men. When all had vanished, and they could obtainnothing more from them, the giants turned against men and devoured many of them, andthe remnant of men began to trespass against the birds, beasts, reptiles, and fish, eating theirflesh and drinking their blood.
 
 Jasher 4.18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.

Then the Earth complained about the disrespectful evil-doers. But the fallen angelscontinued to corrupt mankind. Azazel taught men how to make slaughtering knives, arms,shields, and coats of mail. He showed them metals and how to work them, and armlets and all sorts of trinkets, and the use of rouge for the eyes, and how to beautify the eyelids, and how to ornament themselves with the rarest and most precious jewels and all sorts of paints.The chief of the fallen angels, Shemhazai, instructed them in exorcisms and how to cutroots; Armaros taught them how to raise spells; Barakel, divination from the stars; Kawkabel, astrology; Ezekeel, augury from the clouds; Arakiel, the signs of the earth;Samsaweel, the signs of the sun; and Seriel, the signs of the moon. Penemue taught the children of men that which is bitter and sweet, and he taught them all the secrets of their wisdom. He instructed mankind in writing with ink and paper, and thereby many sinned from eternity to eternity and until this day. For men were not created for such a purpose, to give confirmation to their good faith with pen and ink. For men were created exactly like theangels, to the intent that they should continue pure and righteous. And death, which destroys everything, could not have taken hold of them, but through this, their knowledge,they perished, and through this power, it consumed them. And Kasdeja showed the children of men all the wicked attacks of spirits and demons, and the attacks of the embryo in the womb, that it may pass away, and the attacks of the soul, the bites of the serpent, and the attacks which happen through the noon-tide heat.The fallen angels seized two hundred donkeys, two hundred asses, two hundred sheep and rams of the flock, two hundred goats, two hundred beasts of the field from every animal and from every bird, for experiments in in-breeding with mankind and all types of miscegenation.As a result, monsters were created among all the perversion, due to mingling animal seedwith mortal women. Some had human heads set on the body of a lion, or a serpent, or an ox;others had human bodies topped by the head of one of these animals.

By Jeremy Kapp

[Edit by Quasar:  This is only the 3rd page of 30 pages.  Interesting, but legendary] 
 
See the following for the full article.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2562003/Giants-Nephilim-and-the-ancient-Egyptians

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There Were Giants in Those Days

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown." Gen 6:4


In this section we take a look at some of the still available evidence that men of giant stature�even larger and more robust than �Neanderthal� man existed in the past. It�s not an area that evolutionists really deal with at all. In fact, science barely acknowledges that these giant footprints in rock or very large human bones even exist. It (very large, modern man) certainly does not fit in with evolutionary theory.


Christians generally believe that there were apes and there were men in the past. Evolutionists are not willing to accept that there existed in the past giant versions of modern man because there is no evolutionary explanation for their existence, just as there is no real attempt to explain giant versions of modern day animals.


(Left to Right, 6 foot Male, Goliath, "Gigantopithecus" and in comparison, Og, King of Bashan)


On the other hand, those who believe that God created the world know that according to the Bible, men of giant stature once walked the earth. The Bible quite matter-of-factly states that there were giants in those days (before the flood) and also after.


A Christian, believing as he does that Goliath actually existed, does not need to be concerned with the confused state of anthropology and its controversies, he might wonder if evidence of these races and countries of giant men have been found? The answer, without having to sort ape from proto-ape and alleged proto-human is yes..as we will continue to see.


Finally, before begin looking at some of the evidence that giants actually lived, we want to point out one glaring, obvious fake story prevalent on the net: The Kossuth Giants.


What the Bible Says About Giants


2 Samuel 21
In still another battle, which took place at Gath, there was a huge man with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot--twenty-four in all. He also was descended from Rapha. When he taunted Israel, Jonathan son of Shimeah, David's brother, killed him.

Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Deuteronomy 2:11
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.

Deuteronomy 2:20
(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;

Deuteronomy 3:11
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

Deuteronomy 3:13
And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.


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(Photo: an example of polydactly and a minor case of double rowed teeth)As we will see in looking at these snippets of evidence, six fingers and/or six toes and double rows of teeth are characteristics often associated with giants.


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"Near Braytown, on the headwaters of the Tennessee river, were found some remarkable footprints impressed in what is now solid rock. The tracks included those of a human heel ball thirteen inches wide!" The marks clearly showed that the fellow whose stride in that distant day turned to stone had six toes on each foot. Source: Stranger Than Science, by Frank Edwards


Deu 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead [was] a bedstead of iron; [is] it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits [was] the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.


 

It doesn't make a big deal about them--no theological points about them except that God's people could defeat anyone.


Scripture states that Goliath was about 9 feet tall. Og, King of Bashan described above was thought to have been taller; his bed needed to be made of iron and was about 15 feet by 6 to 7 feet wide (literally, king sized). He was thought to be 10 to 12 feet tall and proportionate. A cubit is conservatively estimated to be approximately 20 inches.


Go to the following for the complete data and article:  http://www.s8int.com/giants1.html

 

 

See also:  http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp


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