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Just about all the prayer targets here have to do with the church, at least while we are at the beginning of this exercise. The idea is that the body of Christ is not going anywhere fast until we can get our own house in order.

Now the churches really are the front lines in the battle between good and evil. Those that God is calling are drawn to the churches where they are supposed to be able to receive instruction but at the same time the powers of this world are going to be doing the best they can to stop that from happening. Hence the church as an institution becomes the front lines in the battle between Good and Evil.

Now what we have done here is identify which demon is responsible for doing what so that we can set them up as effective prayer targets so as to stop their workings more effectively.

That said!

One thing that has become apparent while doing the study to get all this in order is that these demons themselves seem to have specific areas of expertise. I have labled these their attributes. The reason being that if you see certain things happening you can work out quick enough which demon is behind it. Of course it also helps if you know someone with the gift of prophecy that can be used to confirm which demons are involved but that will not always be available to everyone.

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Apr 4 10 1:02 AM

Prayer strategy flow chart.

It is understood that all intercessors have their own way of praying and coming before the Lord. This flow chart is not so much an order as to how to pray but a method of getting all the required information out there in an orderly manner in such a way that nothing gets forgotten.

Identification of the specific demon or Spiritual influence involved.

Azazel

Also goes by Zazel, Samyaza, Samyazazel, Shamgaz, Shemyaza, Shamyaza, Shemihazah, Shamash

(Babylonian) Utu
(Sumerian) Samas
(Assyrian), Shamiyah (Hathra), Semjaza

This is the goat demon. The devil pictured as a goat is this one.

Definition of the problem

He has extended his influence over the Evangelical church groups. This is the demon that has brought in the legalism and religiosity that is used to protect and promote the false doctrines that have been introduced into this denominational group. He is also the one that is promoting the militant aspects of the group so as to set them up for a fall.

He is also the demon that is behind all the genetic research involving the creation of new forms of life and where and when it is released into the biosphere. This demon is known as the teacher of mankind but the problem is that he teaches all the wrong things. He was reputed to be the one that corrupted mankind prior to the flood. He is doing it again.

What action needs to be stopped.

Authority needs to be taken over this demon Azazel and he is to be commanded to release his hold and influence over the Evangelical denominations. He is no longer to provide the impetus for the religiosity that manifests there. He is no longer to promote any form of legalism to force the saints to comply with the false doctrines introduced there. He is no longer to promote and protect a Christ  that is being introduced to replace the Real one revealed in the scriptures. When he withdrawals from all the evangelical church groups including the informal ones like the home study groups and internet chat rooms he is to take all the other demons under him with him. He is not to oppose the going forth of this information about himself either. This is to be done on a global scale.

Also authority needs to be taken over him with regards the promotion of all the new sciences involving genetic enchantments and tinkering. He is to withdraw all his influence over the companies and research institutions involved in this. He is not to reveal anymore knowledge to them by any means whatsoever and all the demonic influences under him that are involved in this are to be withdrawn as well. He is to withdraw all benefits to the companies as well including his protection, financial incentives and all forms of prestige involved in this research and development. He is no longer to allow any product or organism that comes from this industry to be released into the biosphere in any way shape or form.

To be loosed over the situation.

To ask the Lord to release a spirit of repentance over all situations involved here so as to reach the point where the people involved have a desire to actually correct the wrongs done. To release a spirit of wisdom and understanding within the church groups so as to open the eyes of the saints to just how far the gospels have been corrupted. A spirit of conviction over the shepherds in this denomination as to what they have been doing and what they need to do so as to correct the situation.

Scriptures in support of this action.

Luk 9:1  And He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons and to cure diseases.

Act 1:8  But you shall receive power, the Holy Spirit coming upon you. And you shall be witnesses to Me both in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and to the end of the earth.

Luk 10:19  Behold, I give to you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 4 10 1:04 AM

Prayer strategy flow chart.

It is understood that all intercessors have their own way of praying and coming before the Lord. This flow chart is not so much an order as to how to pray but a method of getting all the required information out there in an orderly manner in such a way that nothing gets forgotten.

Identification of the specific demon or Spiritual influence involved.

Enlil, goes by the modern name of Beelzebub. In old testament times was known as Baal.

Definition of the problem

Is attempting to do to the church a repeat of what was done to Israel, where the nation was corrupted from within leading eventually to the Babylonian captivity.

Specifically he is presenting a counterfeit Christ, one that is God himself, not the Son of God that God gave to redeem the world back to himself with. In effect he is dressing up the old deity Horus of the old Egyptian culture to play the part of Christ himself. And twisting the scriptures in such a way as to make the fake one look like the real one. He is operating right from within the church itself and preaching this from over the pulpit.

Saviour god
Shed is a deity, commonly referred to as "savior" and is first recorded during the Amarna Period.[24] Representing the concept of salvation he is identified with Horus and in particular "Horus the Child".[25]
Shed can be depicted as a young prince overcoming snakes, lions and crocodiles.[26] David P. Silverman notes that late period representations of the young Horus slaying Set in the form of a crocodile are considered to have been the inspiration for the icons depicting St. George and the dragon.[27]
The rise of "Savior" names in personal piety during the Amarna period has been interpreted as the popular response of ordinary people to the attempts by Akhenaten to proscribe the ancient religion of Egypt. Shed has also been viewed as a form of the ancient Semitic god Reshef.[28]

The objective here is to corrupt the church doctrine to such an extent that the authority gained by the real Jesus Christ will be lost to the Church and the saints rendered powerless. The idea being that the saints will be bowing before the throne of the false Christ that they consider God himself, with the result that none will be in any position to come before the throne of grace of the real God of scripture. Thus the Church is cut off from God and falls into apostasy, rendering it easy prey for conversion into either other eastern religions or have it fall way into atheism altogether. And of course, with the fall of the church also comes the fall of the nation preventing any real recovery for a long time to come.

What action needs to be stopped or taken.

Those saints that are still capable are needed to come against this demon and take authority over him. He may only be dealing with one area of the corruption of the church but this is basically one of the most important areas. He is to be commanded to stop promoting this false christ in the form of Horus. Not only is he to stop corrupting the scriptures and blinding the saints to it but he is to start correcting this action and start to provide the correct doctrines and interpretation. He is to point to the real Christ and not the false.  Not only that but he is to stop the promotion of all eastern religious beliefs in the churches altogether.

To be loosed over the situation.

Spirit of wisdom and understanding.

For the Lord to raise up teachers and Pastors that are able to feed the flock properly.

Scriptures in support of this action.

Joh 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him may be saved.

Act 4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, by which we must be saved.

1Ti 4:1  But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and teachings of demons,
1Ti 4:2  speaking lies in hypocrisy, being seared in their own conscience,
1Ti 4:3  forbidding to marry, saying to abstain from foods which God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

Isa 45:21  Declare and bring near; yea, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this of old? Who has told it from then? Is it not I, Jehovah? And there is no other God besides Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none besides Me.

Exo 20:1  And God spoke all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2  I am Jehovah your God, who has brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3  You shall have no other gods before Me.
Exo 20:4  You shall not make to yourselves any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Exo 20:5  You shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them. For I Jehovah your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation of those that hate me,
Exo 20:6  and showing mercy to thousands of those that love Me and keep My commandments.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 4 10 1:06 AM

Prayer strategy flow chart.

It is understood that all intercessors have their own way of praying and coming before the Lord. This flow chart is not so much an order as to how to pray but a method of getting all the required information out there in an orderly manner in such a way that nothing gets forgotten.

Identification of the specific demon or Spiritual influence involved.

LUCIFUGE ROFOCALE

Also known as
Tarchimache
Focalor
Mammon

The Lord indicated to use the name Focalor.

This demon is the one behind the control of the worlds mammon. (Earthly riches and the power it buys) In fact he is considered the personification of it. Although well known to Satanists as the one that gives them obscene riches he keeps himself unknown to most others, preferring to operate in the shadows as an unknown entity.

Definition of the problem

In the churches he has extended his influence in such a manner that the requirements of the gospels have been replaced with the blessings of the flesh. Thus corrupting the whole salvation message and rendering it to no effect. He is the main influence over the Rhema churches but the prosperity gospel that extended from them into all the others are a result of his influence. This is what needs to be stopped.

On other fronts Focalor is the main influence behind the world banks and the monitory funds that are indepting the rest of the world and bringing these broken nations under the financial control of the new world order.

What action needs to be stopped.

Come against him in the name of Jesus and take authority over him. Use the name Focalor to identify him as the specific demon you are addressing. Have him remove his influence of the churches and remove his blessings of money from the leadership that promote his doctrine. He is to leave them high and dry. He is to remove all his influence including the demons under him.

Then on the banking and political industry he is to remove all his benefits and helps from those in positions of authority and the institutions that he has been promoting. That includes all the secret societies and promoters of the NWO and those that are advocating the kill off of the worlds populations and those that have been destroying the economies of the third world so as to gain control over them. He is to withdraw all benefits so that these operations are left without the finance to continue their operations.  This is to be a permanent action and he is never to give to them any access to worldly wealth again. Not just the organizations and covens but the individual members of those institutions as well. He is to leave them poverty stricken permanently so that they no longer have power to carry out their plans.

To be loosed over the situation.

Ask the Lord to send out workers into the harvest that can show his flock what the gospels of salvation really teach and that he sends out a spirit of repentance into his body to convict them of what the results of grasping for mammon is doing.

That the Lord sends out his servants to redistribute the freed up wealth into the hands of his own servants so that his own people can get the tools needed to do the work that he has for them. Ask the Lord to expose to the masses all those that have been engaging in deeds of darkness in secret so that they are held up as examples of what the fruits of evil accomplish so that others will no longer follow them or hold them in any form of high esteem. To strip them of their perceived power.

Scriptures in support of this action.

Luk 16:13  No servant can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 4 10 1:08 AM

Prayer strategy flow chart.

It is understood that all intercessors have their own way of praying and coming before the Lord. This flow chart is not so much an order as to how to pray but a method of getting all the required information out there in an orderly manner in such a way that nothing gets forgotten.

Identification of the specific demon or Spiritual influence involved.

Sargatanas.

He is known as the Black flame. His followers are known as the sons of the Black Mark.

Definition of the problem

This is the demon that has set out to corrupt the word of God any which way he can. He is the one that is pulling the word of God to pieces in the secular world and ridiculing it at every opportunity.  It is his stated objective to do this and refers to Jesus as the king of the slaves.

However he is also at work within the church itself. He is a teacher of shepherds as in false teachers and pastors. Where as other demons may introduce the false doctrines or miracles etc, he is the one that provides the false pastors and prophets etc by controlling what they believe and what doctrine they proclaim. He is a bit of a mind bender. When it comes to prayer about the demons coming against the church to destroy it he ranks as first in line to be prayed against.

What action needs to be stopped.

We need to come against this demon in the church and stop him from controlling what the pastors believe and preach. We need to break his influence over the leadership. This is for all denominations of the covenant faiths and on a global scale.

Then we need to take authority over him to stop his anti God propaganda campaign in the secular world. That not only includes his web sites and news outlets feeding out anti God literature but also  the death metal rock bands that operate under his name. All the outlets are to be shut down.

To be loosed over the situation.

We need to ask the Lord to loose a spirit of truth into the churches and a spirit of conviction so as to  aid in the repentance of the false doctrines that have been preached..

We also need a spirit of boldness to be loosed over those that are in a position to speak up against these deceptions where ever they may be.

Scriptures in support of this action.

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth

Joh 4:23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 4 10 1:11 AM

Prayer strategy flow chart.

It is understood that all intercessors have their own way of praying and coming before the Lord. This flow chart is not so much an order as to how to pray but a method of getting all the required information out there in an orderly manner in such a way that nothing gets forgotten.

Identification of the specific demon or Spiritual influence involved.

Both the demons called

Sargatanas and Azazel

Definition of the problem

This came by word of Prophecy

(Michelle, in the name of Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and died so that you may live and reign with him in glory and is seated at the right hand side of God Almighty, Jehovah. this demon is in partnership with Azazel, and they are planning a black plague to be released upon this nation. The plague will come as the war with the reds have seen their time by half. As the reds have fought for half the time that they will, the plague will come upon this nation. It is from the decaying rot of flesh upon the land, mixed with the chemicals that will be dropped from the planes over America. Sargatanas is in charge of making sure that the black plague spreads as far and wide as possible. Azazel has created the organisms for the plague already, and they are ready to be released at the time in their plan. The plague will be, but to come against these from going outside of the Will of God Almighty will keep only those that are appointed unto this plague to meet it's force. Command them to cease any extra spread of this plague, and to only do the will of Jehovah, God Almighty. They shall not touch My People. They shall not touch those who are pleading the blood of Jesus upon themselves and their families, and other brethren in Christ Jesus. They shall not touch those who are not their own by their own design. This is a true word from the Lord God Almighty Jehovah. In the name of Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and died so that you may live and reign with Him in glory and is seated at the right hand side of God Almighty, Jehovah. Selah.)

What action needs to be stopped.

Command them to cease any extra spread of this plague, and to only do the will of Jehovah, God Almighty. They shall not touch My People. They shall not touch those who are pleading the blood of Jesus upon themselves and their families, and other brethren in Christ Jesus. They shall not touch those who are not their own by their own design.

(If you read that carefully these demons are being instructed to only kill their own people that are there by their own design with their own plague.)

To be loosed over the situation.

That a spirit of conviction be released from the Lord so as to impress on the faithful that this prayer needs to be done.

Scriptures in support of this action.

Psa 4:1  To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm of David. Hear me when I call, O God of my righteousness: thou hast enlarged me when I was in distress; have mercy upon me, and hear my prayer.
Psa 4:2  O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.
Psa 4:3  But know that the LORD hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the LORD will hear when I call unto him.
Psa 4:4  Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah.
Psa 4:5  Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the LORD.
Psa 4:6  There be many that say, Who will shew us any good? LORD, lift thou up the light of thy countenance upon us.
Psa 4:7  Thou hast put gladness in my heart, more than in the time that their corn and their wine increased.
Psa 4:8  I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 6 10 1:30 AM

Prayer strategy flow chart.

It is understood that all intercessors have their own way of praying and coming before the Lord. This flow chart is not so much an order as to how to pray but a method of getting all the required information out there in an orderly manner in such a way that nothing gets forgotten.

Identification of the specific demon or Spiritual influence involved.

Moloch

This is the demon mentioned in the Old Testament that demanded child sacrifices the whole time.  In effect he is no more than hells dept collector. His name is associated with the idea of sacrifices of terrible prices.

Definition of the problem

This demon is the one behind the destruction of families and the separation between the parents and their children. Especially Christians.

It is the one behind the development of the video games etc that are designed to create this separation and lead the youth into pursuits that are self destructive.

This is also the demon behind the push to promote abortions.

What action needs to be stopped.

Moloch needs to be bound and prevented from his activities of snatching the children away from the parents. He is no longer to be allowed to use the instruments of state such as the police, child welfare or the court systems to break up families and high tech role playing games that create a disconnect between generations. He is to remove all his influence that makes these games addictive and appear desirable.

He is not to push for the abortion agenda or euthanasia of the old and disabled.

He is not to demand sacrifice for riches or fame and he is not to give favor to any that pass a child through his fire. He is to withdraw from all world leaders that acknowledge him and he is to no longer place his name on the Bohemian grove or any other grove where humans acknowledge him anywhere else on the globe.

To be loosed over the situation.

That God send out his angels to ensure that this demon obeys.  That a spirit of reconciliation be loosed between the parents and their children. That the children be convicted and have their eyes opened to what effect the role playing games is having on them and that a spirit of repentance be placed on them so that they start to draw away from the games and the influence it has over them.

That the Lord raise up those that are able to change the laws and the liberties of the government departments that have been used to extract family sacrifices from the people in the past.

Scriptures in support of this action.

1Co 6:20  For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1Co 7:23  Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

Rev 5:9  And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Gal 3:13  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

1Pe 1:18  Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1Pe 1:19  But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 6 10 5:07 AM

Just about all the prayer targets here have to do with the church, at least while we are at the beginning of this exercise. The idea is that the body of Christ is not going anywhere fast until we can get our own house in order.
Now the churches really are the front lines in the battle between good and evil. Those that God is calling are drawn to the churches where they are supposed to be able to receive instruction but at the same time the powers of this world are going to be doing the best they can to stop that from happening. Hence the church as an institution becomes the front lines in the battle between Good and Evil.
Now what we have done here is identify which demon is responsible for doing what so that we can set them up as effective prayer targets so as to stop their workings more effectively.
That said!
One thing that has become apparent while doing the study to get all this in order is that these demons themselves seem to have specific areas of expertise. I have labled these their attributes. The reason being that if you see certain things happening you can work out quick enough which demon is behind it. Of course it also helps if you know someone with the gift of prophecy that can be used to confirm which demons are involved but that will not always be available to everyone.

-traveler

Q: Please clarify where this material originated and where it is being practiced, Traveler.

Thanks,

Quasar

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Apr 6 10 5:24 AM

Quote by Traveler:

>>>Identification of the specific demon or Spiritual influence involved.
Enlil, goes by the modern name of Beelzebub. In old testament times was known as Baal.<<<

Q: The above needs some clarification:  NT "Beelzebub" is a mistranslation of OT Baalzebub, the name under which Baal was worshiped by the Philestines of Ekron, according to 2 Kgs.1:2, 3, 6 and 16.

The term "Baal" actually had OT several meanings, such as "master" or "owner," and the common term of the Hebrews for "husband," because the wives were seen as being owned by their husbands.

Most often, however, the word refers to the Semitic deity or dieties called Baal.  Baal became the proper name for the most significant god in the Canaanite panteon.  But not ever considered a demon, as Baalzebub was.

Blessings,

Quasar

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Apr 6 10 5:41 PM

Q: Please clarify where this material originated and where it is being practiced, Traveler.
Thanks,
Quasar

-quasar

The actual research regarding the demons comes from the net, the encyclopedias, and what the libraries may have. The bible also has reference to them which also helps a lot as a confirmation. All I did was list the attributes of each one against the names of them so that a solid prayer target can be established. There is so much information out there now that these demons may as well have their own web pages and fan clubs.

Exactly what demon is operating where is a result of prayer. Some church bodies are fine while others have drifted so far off the rails it is apparent to all. At the moment I am just looking as in a general over view but as I dig deeper things will become more specific.

The scriptures tell us that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities in heavenly places. The powers of the air.

Eph 6:12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

All I am doing here is identifying exactly what and who those powers and principality's are. Giving a name to them.  I do not think that this kind of thing has been done in a while so its a work in progress. But it should enable the body to become more focused and effective in their prayer which is needed especially as we approach these last days.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 6 10 5:54 PM

Trying to get a working link to some tables. You may find them interesting if I can get it to work eventually.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!

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Apr 7 10 4:30 AM

Can you enlarge the text Servant?  I can't read what you hsve posted even with a magnifying glass.  As it stands now, I am not able to respond to it.

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Apr 7 10 7:01 AM

If you click on it it will come up in a separate window .

then you can enlarge it.

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Apr 7 10 7:32 PM

Gotcha!  Thanks Travelor, why didn't I think of that?

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Apr 7 10 7:59 PM

Don't misunderstand me, Service, but though your post is an interesting study of Hebrew mythology and very well documented in many different aspects, I fail to get your point about Beliel/Belial as to your primary purpose in raising the subject about him, other than possibly, mention of him in the Bible..

For example, in Mt.12:24, it states, "But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, 'This fellow doth not cast out demons/devils [Depending on what KJV translation you are reading], but by Beelzebub/Baalzebub, the prince of the demons.'"

And in Rev.9:11 we find, "And they had a king over them, who is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abbaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

The former is prince of the demons, while the latter is not, as he is an angel God will assign to carry out a specific portion of His wrath upon the evil/godless people left on the earth.

In any case, it is a clear fact, the demons are all from the Nephilim, whose spirits did not return to God as everyone elses does when the body dies, according to Ecc.12:7, but were relegated to remain on earth seeking the bodies of others to get into until the day of judgement when they will be destroyed.

None of us with the indwelling Spirit Jesus gave/baptised us with [Mt.3:11; Acts 2:1-3 and 1 Jn.4:13] have a thing to fear from any demons, as long as long as we stear clear of the occult and retain our spiritual walk with Christ.  Those who meddle in the occultof any kind are fair game for the demons to enter into them, as are all non-believers or the ignorant/non-regenerated.

More about Beliel tomorrow, as it is too late to do so now.

Blessings,

Quasar

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Apr 7 10 10:27 PM

The point is, is that every demon that is mentioned in the Bible is alive and well today influencing people. Every "god" that the people of antiquity bowed to are real demons. They have names, and attributes.

It has been proven in my own life that praying against these demons by their names, and asking the Father, Almighty God, through his only begotten son, Jesus Christ to bind these attributes from a situation, or people is much more effective than a blanket prayer. All prayers go through Jesus to the Father, and it is His power that upholds the prayer. Thus, His will being done, not our own.

No, there is nothing to fear from them, but as servants of the Lord, it is also our job to pray against them as well.

That is the reason for the charts.

Pro 17:22 A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

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Apr 8 10 5:25 AM

1. The point is, is that every demon that is mentioned in the Bible is alive and well today influencing people. Every "god" that the people of antiquity bowed to are real demons. They have names, and attributes.
2. It has been proven in my own life that praying against these demons by their names, and asking the Father, Almighty God, through his only begotten son, Jesus Christ to bind these attributes from a situation, or people is much more effective than a blanket prayer. 3. All prayers go through Jesus to the Father, and it is His power that upholds the prayer. Thus, His will being done, not our own.
No, there is nothing to fear from them, but as servants of the Lord, it is also our job to pray against them as well.
That is the reason for the charts.

-servant

Greetings Servant,

1. Yes, that's what I thought you had in mind and it is a fact that all demons from the spiritual exile of the Nephilim, they are very much alive today and they all have names, though by no means are they all known by human beings.  According to the Scriptures, there are very few in which any of their attributes are documented.

All of the gods, goddesses, princes and princesses of Babylonian; Assyrian; Egyptian; Medo-Persian; Greek and Roman mytholgy and legend have nothing to do with the real demons.  That is why I questioned you.  That the former is not confused with the real and only demons originating from the exiled spirits of the dead Nephilim.

As it states in Ecc.12:7, the dedad bodies return to the dust and the spirit/souls return to God who gave them and places a disposition on them as to whether they stay with Him in heaven or go to hell.  In the case of the dead spirits of the Nephilim, they were relegated to spiritual exile on the earth seeking bodies to get into until the day of judgement when they will all be destroyed.

2. Why do you consider your personal situation any different than how Jesus prayed to the Father for us in the very same situation, in Jn.17:15?  "My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one."  Where He is referring to Satan, the leader of all the demons, fallen angels as well as one third of all the other created angels who chose to follow him instead of God.  Jesus mention is of the one single primary source of all evil.

3. When Jesus died on the cross, the curtain in front of the Holy of Holies in the temple was torn from the top to the bottom, signifying Jesus had provided us full access to the Father.  Therefore our prayers can be directed to either The Father or to Jesus.  In most all cases, they are to the Father ...in Jesus name.  See Jn.15:16 as an example.  Yes, it is our responsibility to pray for deliverance against evil, as Jesus taught us in Mt.6:9-13, where He directed us to pray to the Father.

Who/What are the real Demons ?.

By: Jason Guenther @ Ryan Mc Ginty Web Site:

For the entire article: http://www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen/

TITAN = Greek

SHEITAN = Chaldean

SATAN = Hebrew

If most of what you've read and learned about the "gods" of mythology isn't starting to ring some bells and whistles in your head by now, then your not alive!. It is imperative that you notice that the "nephillim" are NOT the same as "fallen angels". You must understand that "fallen" in the case of these angels, is a "state" rather then a "condition" at FIRST. What I mean is, what happened to the fallen angels after they "procreated" with the daughters of men? Every indication would seem to say that the fallen angels "left" in the same way they "...came unto..". They materialized "out of the "flesh" and back into their original form (spirit)", leaving behind their offspring, the nephillim on earth. When they came unto the daughters of men, they must have manifested FLESH. There is no other explanation and NO reason to believe this not possible as the bible is fraught with occasions of "angels" appearing in the flesh, eating, drinking, talking, fighting etc, and then "de-materializing" back into "spirit". Do you think the daughters of men were wives to phantoms or thin air?. As uneasy as this will make you feel, it is a REALITY. But then you're going to say "now wait a minute here, angels are sexless. The bible says so, so they couldn't have copulated with women!". Well.... your bible does NOT tell you the angels are "sexless". This view stems from another misinterpretation of scripture. The distortion of Matt 22:30, Mark 12:25, and Luke 20:35. These verses of scripture, are some of the most mistranslated verses of all time. Jesus in no way denotes anything to do with the angels "sex", rather he is stating there is no need for angels to marry, as they are created ETERNAL. There is no need for them to "extend themselves". Marriage was created for prolonging the existence of a "fallen" human race through "procreation!". This IS the point he is making, because the fact of the matter is, all the "host of heaven", good and bad including the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are ALL MALE!. You don't like it? TOUGH, cause thats what your bible TEACHES. Oh, and another thing, all of the "nephillim"?... were male ALSO, as there weren't any "mighty woman of renown", only MEN. Now, NO I'm not "sexist" or "racist", I'm just trying to state the abject facts according to the Holy Writ. There is New Testament confirmation however, that directly confirms the "angel view":

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation..... giving themselves over to fornication, and going after STRANGE FLESH, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire".
(Jude 6-7)

It should be noticed here that this is a very unique translation for the word "strange" here. It is one of 18 different translations, and only used in one place, one time, right here in Jude 7. It is[Strong's ref. 2087 heteros,het - er - os; of uncert. orig., other or different,:-altered, strange]. And it would seem that Peter affirms this as well:

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to tartarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgement; and spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person...."

As you can see, there seems to be harmony within the Old and New Testaments as to this strange anomaly I am bringing to your attention. The "angels" held in tartarus are from the days of Noah, and shall be released just prior to Judgement. The "angels that sinned" are those that "copulated" with women. These are held along with the "rapha" (demons from the nephillim). Demons not in tartarus right now (on the earth) are from the nephillim AFTER the flood. These are the same demons Jesus contended with in his time, and the ones that are seen today. But right now I'd like to draw your attention to the flood for a moment.

"...The spirits of the nephillim shall be like c l o u d s, which shall oppress, corrupt, fall, contend, and bruise those upon the earth...". (Enoch 15)

The adjective "clouds", is most descriptive (2 Pet.2:17, Jude 12). The relationship between "bruise those upon the earth" and Gen. 3:15 is most evident. All of the titles designated to angels can be either "good" or "fallen", with the exception of the Archangels (even though Satan could have possibly been an Archangel, the bible is silent on this). All angels according to the bible, were either cherubim or seraphim. There are no other "types" given. Satan IS a Cherub! That is how he was created. His NATURE has changed, but not too much else (in form). Its only wise to assume that all "fallen" angels must be of these two types as well, only their "alignment" has changed. Their "structure" (cherub or seraph), did not change when they fell. Their "angelic powers" were NOT changed as well. They are just limited now as to what they are ALLOWED to do. The misconception that when they "left there first habitation", they lost their angelic abilities is absurd. This stems from the perception, that fallen angels are demons. They are NOT!. Demons are directly connected to the nephillim in the scriptures. Their "first habitation" was HEAVEN, now they are confined to HERE (this universe, especially earth). Demons no longer have access to heaven, and furthermore, scripture seems to indicate that demons can NOT FLY! (Matt.12:43, Luke 11:24). The word used in both of those passages in the New Testament, specifically means "walking". Its very important that you understand this, demons are on the "bottom of the totem-pole" . They do not have the same "benefits" so to speak, as they once had.

WHAT'S IN A NAME

There is a tell-tale "mark" if you will, that can be found in the names for the angelic hierarchy. There is the peculiar "im" at the end of most of the names of giant and angel alike. Keep in mind, that the name for the "triune" God is "Elohim" in the Hebrew. Not to confuse God with the Enemy, but this shows a definite linguistic trademark. It is the stamp of "made in heaven". If your still doubting the nature of the nephillim, then you must look at the meaning of their names to get a better picture of what they were. As shown earlier, the term "nephillim" is a generic term designating all the various "tribes". There is a great deal to be learned from the etymology of the names of these things. There were "tribes", and each tribe was distinct. To show the "distinctive" differences between each tribe, we must do a little digging:

Rephaim... -raphah; a giant, dead [Strong's ref. 7497, 7496]

Anakim...- anaqiy; a desc. Of Anak, to choke, necklace [Strong's ref. 6062, '60,59]

Emim...- eymiym; terrors, fright, horror, fear [Strong's ref. 367, '8]

Zuzim...- zuziym; aboriginal tribe, a wild beast [Strong's ref. 2104, '23]

Zamzumim...- zamzom; intriguing, native tribe,to plan, devise evil [Strong's ref. 2157,61]

Horim...- choriy; cave dweller, troglodyte [Strong's ref. 2752]

Zophim...- tsophiym; watchers, to observe, to wait for [Strong's ref. 6839, '22]

Caphtorim...- kaphtoriy; to encircle, origin of the philistines [Strong's ref. 3732, '31,30]

Seirim...- sayir;devil, satyr, he-goat, hairy [Strong's ref. 8163]

Shedim...- shed; a devil, demon, insolence, waste [strong's ref. 7700, '36]

Nephillim...- nephiyl; a giant, feller, cast down, be judged,fugitive, thrown down, fallen, an abortion [Strong's ref. 5303, '07]

The most interesting of these is the translation for the word"Zophim", This word comes from the root from which we get the word "eyes". This name is also a title of one of the offices of the angelic host, the "watchers" (see Dan.4:17). Put in your head the adjective "observe" in description of the Zophim. Bury this correlation into your brain, because later on you will begin to SEE the light in some bible prophecy I will explain later. Needless to say, all the meanings of these names give somewhat of a descriptive picture of what these things were and about. Ancient Hebrew tradition calls the Anakim the "long-necked ones" (compare with the description of what is known as a "reptilian"). The translation for the word "Caphtorim"shows that the Philistines roots are traced to the nephillim. Goliath was a Philistine, and he was also an Anakim. You will find certain nephillim in scripture that have "six fingers and six toes". Another nephillims weapon and armor are recorded in the bible to have weighed between an estimated 300 to 400 pounds! Another giants "bed" is recorded in the bible as being 21 feet long by 13 feet wide (this is based on the measurement of a cubit, which can not be exactly determined today. I'm basing this measurement on the 27 inch cubit). Ancient Hebrew myths and legends record the nephillim as being 300 feet tall! I'm not kidding. Check it out for yourself. I mean, do these sound like "humans" to you? Lets face it, these THINGS were absolutely NOT HUMAN. We are not just talking about "demon possessed men" here, were talking THING!. God will sometimes relate these to the realm of "men" in scripture, as they were FLESH, but they were NOT human. If anything they were half-human at best, and definitely a MUTATION or HYBRID. Thats what the scripture shows!. In essence, they were (are still?) a "doorway of the physical," from one state ( fallen angel), to another (demon). Nephillim are the least powerful of the hierarchy. They are "confined" to a "house of flesh", which limits their "supernatural" capabilities. I'm telling you, they weren't teaching you everything in Sunday school!. These beings are referred ever so subtly under the text. The Lord (in the "first person") makes this proclamation to affirm the "angelic genetics" of these creatures:

Blessings,

Quasar

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Apr 8 10 8:01 AM

I will read the rest of you post later, Quasar, as I am rushed for time. There is one thing that I must point out though.

1. Yes, that's what I thought you had in mind and it is a fact that all demons from the spiritual exile of the Nephilim, they are very much alive today and they all have names, though by no means are they all known by human beings.  According to the Scriptures, there are very few in which any of their attributes are documented.
All of the gods, goddesses, princes and princesses of Babylonian; Assyrian; Egyptian; Medo-Persian; Greek and Roman mytholgy and legend have nothing to do with the real demons.  That is why I questioned you.  That the former is not confused with the real and only demons originating from the exiled spirits of the dead Nephilim.
As it states in Ecc.12:7, the dedad bodies return to the dust and the spirit/souls return to God who gave them and places a disposition on them as to whether they stay with Him in heaven or go to hell.  In the case of the dead spirits of the Nephilim, they were relegated to spiritual exile on the earth seeking bodies to get into until the day of judgement when they will all be destroyed.

It is because of this line of thinking that we are loosing the youth to the role playing video games of today. Have you checked them out, and what the characters names are and their attributes. And then have you went through and found the same names in the satanic demon lists, and many are mentioned in the Bible?

I work with the youth, and so many are into these role playing games. Please understand that these kids think it is all a game until it starts to affect their lives in the EXACT way as the character that they have "become" in the games. Many of these kids actually will get so far into these games that the demon will start to manifest itself in front of them. As this point they are trained in witchcraft.

Now, because I am called to this ministry, I have had quite a bit of practice praying for these kids that are bound up in it. Blanket prayers are effective, but once you know the name of the demon that the kids have fallen under their influence, and have prayed against it...and bound it from influencing the kid... it is amazing the results that follow.

Am sorry to disagree so vehemently with you on this, but I am going to continue to pray in this fashion until the Lord intercedes and tells me it is wrong.  Which is not likely to happen as He is the one that has led me to these things in the first place.

Pro 17:22 A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

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Apr 8 10 11:55 AM

Greetings Servant,

What is the point of being angry over this issue.  Aren't you interested in learning what the real demons are vs man made mytholgy and legend?

Belial:  Definition from Religion & Spirituality Dictionaries & Glossaries

Religion - Miscellaneous Dictionaries
Rakefet

Belial beliyyaal (Hebrew) [from beli nothing, not + yaal worth, profit, use] Worthless, signifying wickedness; also a wicked man, a destroyer, a waster. A name given by Hebrew and Christian demonologists to the aggregate of evil astral forces or influences, some of them partaking of an individualized type, whose influence is always pernicious to humans, and association with which is invariably immoral because suggestive of evil. It is a name personifying these astral entities of evil.
In the New Testament Belial is associated with Satan (2 Cor 6:15), although "if Belial must be personified to please our religious friends, we would be obliged to make him perfectly distinct from Satan, and to consider him as a sort of spiritual 'Diakka' [Kama-lokic elementary]. The demonographers, however, who enumerate nine distinct orders of daimonia, make him chief of the third class -- a set of hobgoblins, mischievous and good-for-nothing" (IU 2:482).

Bible Dictionaries
Smith's Bible Dictionary

The meaning of this word as found in the Scriptures is worthlessness, and hence reckless, lawlessness. The expression son or man of Belial must be understood as meaning simply a worthless, lawless fellow. The term as used in (2 Corinthians 6:15) is generally understood as an appellative of Satan, as the personification of all that was bad.

Smith's Bible Dictionary (1884) , by William Smith. About

Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary
wicked, worthless

Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary (1869) , by Roswell D. Hitchcock. About

Easton's Bible Dictionary

worthlessness, frequently used in the Old Testament as a proper name. It is first used in Deut. 13:13. In the New Testament it is found only in 2 Cor. 6:15, where it is used as a name of Satan, the personification of all that is evil. It is translated "wicked" in Deut. 15:9; Ps. 41:8 (R.V. marg.); 101:3; Prov. 6:12, etc. The expression "son" or "man of Belial" means simply a worthless, lawless person (Judg. 19:22; 20:13; 1 Sam. 1:16; 2:12).

Belial Definition from Language, Idioms & Slang Dictionaries & Glossaries

belial
\be"li*al\ (&?;), n. [heb. beli ya'al; beli without + ya'al profit.] an evil spirit; a wicked and unprincipled person; the personification of evil. what concord hath christ with belia ? vi. 15.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

(n.) An evil spirit; a wicked and unprincipled person; the personification of evil.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913), edited by Noah Porter.

Belial Definition from Encyclopedia Dictionaries & Glossaries

Wikipedia Dictionaries

Wikipedia English - The Free Encyclopedia

Belial (also Belhor, Baalial, Beliar, Belias , Beliall, Beliel; from Hebrew בְּלִיַּ֫עַל ; also named Matanbuchus, Mechembuchus, Meterbuchus in older scripts) is an evil being in Jewish apocrypha, and also a term used to characterise the wicked or worthless.
The etymology of word is uncertain but is most commonly translated as "without worth". Some scholars translate it from Hebrew as "worthless" (Beli yo'il), while others translate it as "yokeless" (Beli ol), "may have no rising" (Belial) or "never to rise" (Beli ya'al). Only a few etymologists have assumed it to be a proper name from the start. In the Book of Jubilees, uncircumcised heathens are called "sons of Belial".

 Quasar

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Apr 8 10 7:27 PM

Ok lets throw something in the mix here.

ar 5:7  And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
Mar 5:8  For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
Mar 5:9  And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
Mar 5:10  And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
Mar 5:11  Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
Mar 5:12  And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
Mar 5:13  And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

From this passage it can be gleaned that we are not looking at a few disembodied Nephilum here. We are looking at a large number of demons in a single place not counting all the others that must also have been scattered all around the world in other places at that time as well.

When Lucifer fell he drew a third of the heavenly host with him in his fall.

Rev 12:3  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4  And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Now the question is just how many constitute a third of the heavenly host.

Yes I agree that the main demons are the Nephilum that belong nowhere and they do seem to be in positions of Authority. But at the same time Lucifer himself was a covering Churib that was cast out of heaven and he is in no way originally associated with the Nephilum. But it appears that he picked them up and is now making use of them and giving them direction to carry out his own agenda.

So as you can see this subject is not that simple and cut and dried as it would at first appear. We just use a generic term of demon or devil but in fact there are a whole host of mixed entities that make up the satanic organization. All of which are in the spiritual realms that constitute the powers and principalities that we are to wrestle against in prayer. Hence the need to try and establish some solid forms of definitions that we can use to gain a greater understanding of what we are actually up against.

Blessings in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and now sits at the right hand of our God on high. A confession of faith that the modern Evangelical movement can no longer make!